I’d say, her very presence makes him happy. !yah Gilgamesh looks handsome with his hair down (i have to admit), but then so what?urgh.. Shirou loves saber soooo much that he actually just tried his best to protect her~, Finally I found someone who is a SaberXGilgamesh fan. It's not like I really support Saber and Gilgamesh or Shirour and saber, but looks aren't everything you know. The two of them developed a friendship over the course of the event, evidently finding a kindred spirit in each other, and sharing an attraction towards Saber, though Lon'qu was the one who had won Saber's affections in the end. I don't know...really. Can someone tell me when Gil raped a girl in the Fate route (because I never find it)? Its like seeing the strength of a woman I guess. See a recent post on Tumblr from @animesky12 about saber-x-gilgamesh. He has some guts & potentials. (Especially those who are bored with the usual harem comedy shonentard main character crap) With a few tweaks and some overcoming of personal flaws/hangups, it might work in a different setting. He decides to "show her his love" until he grows tired of her. ^ If Archer didnt lose his memory maybe it will be more trouble for shirou and gilgamesh afterwards.Imagine this, If archer didnt lose his memory and proposed to saber in the 4th grail war, gilgamesh might kick his ass for attempting that. I think Saber cant see this Gilgamesh pure feelings to her because she blinded by Shirou and more focused on the bad side of Gilgamesh. The reason I do not like him very much is because he had no development. Because in the end he's a Gilgamesh copycat. Saber loathes him because he is so egocentric, sexist, and awful. He loves her as an object to possess. Gilgamesh and Saber is the best pair in Fate Stay Night in my opinion. Humanity can not be immortal. Same case on the GilgameshXSaber pairing. Saber hates him because he's arrogant jerk and piece of crap, she is not you, she is against you. You should check out Carnival Phantasm episode 8. People are actually agreeing with this...? And when he mentioned something like “As expected from the girl I laid my eyes on” or something like that. that got old real fast. And Shirou being jealous of Gilgamesh? Like a king would. so, does he want his personal harem? Besides, if you're saying that it's stupid that Shirou's always trying to save people, then you're basically saying that Saber's stupid too. Remember when he said he wouldn’t kill Shirou because if he dies, Saber will also disappear. From the epic, we find out that Gilgamesh is a son of a higher priest-king and a goddess. Humanity, to Gil, is at its best and most beautiful when it's struggling against impossible odds. SO COOL, HANDSOME & HOT!one last thing, Pipan P, nice explanations about the SaberXGilgamesh pairing. i mean, at first i liked Saber with Assassin, but then when i saw Gilgamesh with his hair down, smiling, whispering to Saber before he dies, omg! One more thing, on the last episode, when Saber won, he touched her face before he disappeared and said that he forgave her. Pipan-san! The difference is that, unlike in his interaction with Kirei, he doesn't let Saber make her own decision. But why Gilgamesh who didn't "touch" a girl in the all route was given the nickname of a rapist!? Gilgamesh is the Archer-class Servant of Tokiomi Tohsaka during the Fourth Holy Grail War. When he became Archer, he changed his hair to look like Gil´s and even his "a thousand swords" power is like a copy paste of Gil´s power. How i wish the ending is different. Thats why Saber was furious when he keep telling not to fight (DISCRIMINATION! He becomes enthralled with her stubbornness, believing there has to be at least one person in the world to deny him. He didn’t change her at all, she just became more human . As they exchange their philosophies on ruling as monarchs, he develops a fascination for Saber due to her flawed ideals and the chance to see them crush her in despair. Looking for information on the anime Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works 2nd Season (Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] Season 2)? Saber - Altera forces a contract with … He isn't the type of main character I would prefered, not now..not in my lifetime!!!!LOL!! Of course I totally agree on PIPAN because of his explaination of why he didn't like shirou and why should gilgamesh and saber be the couple to be with, it's a good explaination really good job dude. I think many people say Gilgamesh is dump, sexish, rapist etc, but hell! While the relic used as the catalyst looked like the broken fragment of a mummy, it was actually claimed to be the fossil of the first skin ever shed by a snake. Rather than use the Gate of Babylon its normal way, it spreads the mist over the ground to deploy weapons, both levitating swords before firing and simply striking from below the opponent. But that's a child's view. im a saber x gilganesg couple fan too....i dont hate shirou or anything but...saber suits better with gilganesh and i for one thought he was kool... i like gilgamishXsaber but (in reality a proud boy and a proud and stubborngirl cant get along with each other. He means that girls can't fight, wthell....==)Anyway, awesome opinion made there, you just made my day XD. The thing that struck me the most is his dedication to making Saber his. As they exchange their philosophies on ruling as monarchs, he develops a fascination for Saber due to her flawed ideals and the chance to see them crush her in despair. he's an ALTERNATE self of Shirou , Shirou only become the Archer we all love and know if he tried to accomplish his goal of becoming a hero and saving everybody. In fact the pairing has actually picked up some more fans because of it. Gilgamesh and BB's relationship due to Hakuno (Translated) [シカ] Comic. Then the part where Shirou is weak. What are some of your favorite anime series. Typically clad in an ornate golden armor, he possesses an immense number of Noble Phantasms, though none are representative of his true identity. He has no interest in Saber Alter because she has lost sight of her ideals. I would shiver in joy whenever he got his ass kicked... which thankfully happened in every single route in the game. Gilgamesh wants Saber to marry him because she refuses him, he doesn’t care at all what happens , he doesn’t love her, any idiot could see that. Why wouldn't anyone want to save the world? The thing that annoys me the most is when people don't even know what they're talking about, and they start complaining about things. #anime #diarmuid #fanfiction #fate #gilgamesh #gilsaber #lancer #night #saber #stay #zero I know i wouldn't.Then he rants on about things he would do to her (not in a good way)and would you want to be her? This comment has been removed by the author. To Gilgamesh who believes that seeking pleasure is the proof of one's humanity, seeing Saber actively avoid seeking her own happiness is quite unsettling and fascinating to him. Well, I can say that Gil is a insane, arrogant bastard who have a rather high obsession for blood and Saber. What would be worth living for if there weren't challenges ahead of us, whether they kill us or not. A love that he can never conquer will always stay the brightest in his eyes. What a stupid blog...Like Bender said...I honestly could never understand why so many people like Gilgamesh. Although you might not like the end of the episode very much, the Gilgamesh-Saber scenes are worth watching~, WOW!, finally i found ppl who understands my feelings about shirou being the worst main character ever! I've only started this series and I'm pretty addicted to it. xDpeace. Phew there I'm done sorry about the rant but it gets annoying on how people make judgement calls on some things (myself included). (very sorry to Shiro's Fans)Gilgamesh is much handsome than him!! Thats alot more than some would do. but do you really want to do that Saber? If you played Unlimited Blade Works, then your opinion of him might be a little different. It's just that, somehow, I found their interactions very enigmatic - and very fascinating. :3first thing is Gilgamesh does look indeed handsome with his hair down and smiling, regardless of blood! means, they are different. and further more i think gil participate the holy grail war was because he simply wants to meet saber. Gilgamesh - A character from Fate/stay night who first appeared briefly in Monokuma Rising. It so sad for me because in Fate/ Strange Fake Arthuria isn't there.. Why everyone say that Gil is a rapist? Saber also said she was his sword, that means she protects him(strange yes but the difference between powers is obvious).And how is he an arrogant selfish jerk?Arrogant maybe on the parts where his ideal gets overboard a bit but selfish jerk? Gilgamesh is as he explained—the first hero. Gilgamesh wanted to rape her and force her to drink the grail. Profile Identity. It was the first time i saw a main guy so boring. i wonder for which reason gilgamesh came back to the world? They're not real. he has enough power and wealth during his life time-perhaps he was searching for love or st.he wasnt a insane villian he didnt kill that boy waver (velvet), yeah saber and gilgamesh looks more cute when they were together not like saber and shirou, oh my goodness!!! I AM PRETTY CONVINCED. Gil want Arthuria because her idels, I think is not a trash motion. ", so in other word, He is only Interested in her, not like love or something like that... CMIIW. He doesn't love her, this is not love nor unrequited love this is not love at all! Enkidu is brought more fully into civilization by his time with the shepherds. There's really no love involved in it.Zero contradicts this as well. (Cut his arm off) I'm joking, he seriously did! i think that saber and gilgamesh macke a verry good couple, and i kould kick shiros as, and he isno goodfore saber, but gilgamesh is a king like her. It's also stated he flat-out wants to rape her. Throughout the epic, descriptions and language of Gilgamesh and Enkidu’s relationship suggest that the love between them is more than platonic, but evidence does not exist to say with any certainty that their relationship is sexual. While the relic used as the catalyst looked like the broken fragment of a mummy, it was actually claimed to be the fossil of the first skin ever shed by a snake. rin and saber etc gives to him him I mean how much stupider can anyone get? Love-Hate Relationships. also why forcing someone you truly love to do that?! He lived 5000 years ago! Childish.I do enjoy Gilgamesh and Saber. He wants to claim sabers brilliance and wants to darken it himself. Love of all kinds—between friends, or between lovers—plays a central role in the Epic.For Enkidu, being intimate with a woman signals his joining human civilization.When Gilgamesh rejects Ishtar ’s advances, she grows angry, and this leads eventually to Enkidu’s death. UBW is his ability he gained through life. Why did he have to be the main guy? Anyway, it will never happen, deal with it, Saber will be with Shirou on Avalon, she is with him in Sunny day alternative UBW ending, she is with him in Carnival Phantasm and Emiya-san cooking anime and you can only dream about your own Gil but the thing is your own imagined Gil is not canon Gil. 9 Saber And Rin GOD DAMMM!! i really didnt see gil was a villain, i dont think he was trying to oppose the protagonist. There’s no defense against this pairing , plain and simple. Nasu himself said Gilgamesh would just throw her away once he was bored of her and that should she show any interest , or change in anyway, he would drop her. In the midst of the Fifth Holy Grail War, Caster sets her plans into motion, beginning with the capture of Shirou's Servant Saber. At CCC it was revealed that Gil loves humanity.And lastly, if you are smarter, Arthuria is the "first woman" who refuse Gil (Fate/UC). Many might hate him for ruining or attempting to ruin the life of the protagonists. Like wtf -_- he's lame and weak but arrogant af. An idea to be with his lover forever? The reason Gilgamesh is attracted to her is specifically because she represents everything that humanity SHOULD be. Are you advocating that Saber should've just laid down and accepted it this kind of thing from someone she didn't like?She isn't shallow like you guys, she wouldn't Go "kyaaa he's hot" like a virgin fangirl, she Fell in love with Shirou and not Gilgamesh because Shirou is the same type of person she is and could understand her on a personal level.Gilgamesh's "love" isn't really love. :) Love the comments :D Thanks guys, lol i did hate shirou`s over the top attitude xD geez learn to fight first xD but he does have potential xD he does become the o so fantastic archer :P. Look people, Saber REJECTED Gilgamesh which means she DOESN'T like him, and she confessed her love to him already so get over it. I just don't think you understand how Shirou is Saber. But that's what I like from this pairing. Gilgamesh and Genesis Marena A. Saying stupid things like “Normal people die when they are killed” this phrase is very amusing. In fact, the only man who having sex with every girl in the Fate Route is the Main Caracter a.k.a "innocent" Shirou (and it make all heroine like a bitch). Her rejection for him incites him even more, making him want to have her. He is a loyal friend to Rin and people ship them but he’s never interested. I liked you arguments and I agree with you; Shirou sucks =/ I played the novel, and even tough he gets stronger in other scenarios I STILL don't think he's a good character. But 'ANONYMOUS' was right. XD, You are so right!!! Please don't base all your evidence on the anime. Gilgamesh doesn't want to marry saber he wants to own her just like he own all weapons . Because that's stupid. During her life as king, Saber thought only to protect her people and nothing else. Shirouxsaber doesn't work at all. He finds it fascinating how she refuses everything he offers her. The drinking of wine and application of oils signify his introduction to civilized life—he is now wholly divided from nature, and is being seduced by the comforts civilization. i only see him as a person, a man, who looking and pursuing his love. Just accept this simple fact. He risks his life for others and he's selfish? The relationship between them is complete, that is, they are friends, brothers, comrades and lovers at the same time. Just think of what a disaster it would be, because if you honestly think that they're going to get along, then the Gilgamesh and Saber in your mind must have a completely different personality. Besides, in Unlimited Blade Works, Shirou owned Gilgamesh. As Archer he never chases Rin? I mean what the heck! I agree, understand & respect your point of view. But since Saber x Shirou goes canon already, there are a thousand ways to reach fanon :D. I can't say I hate Saber x Shirou, because I think they don't match in one or another way, but still people have their own opinions, and favorite pairings so I will shut up my mouth. Gilgamesh and BB's relationship due to Hakuno (Translated) [シカ] This pairing is actually not just based on looks, in all honesty. I can understand the part about gender discrimination but everything else no just no. After Tokiomi's death, he forged a new contract with Kirei Kotomine that lasted until the Fifth Holy Grail War. Find out more with MyAnimeList, the world's most active online anime and manga community and database. I know I sound stupid for not realizing this, but I just want to make sure. you know,I've found out that my significant other has a warrior quality in her. First up, in Zero he never says he loves her, his line is “ keep trying King if Knights, ......you might earn more of my love” and he walks away laughing evilly. He fought her as if she may beat him. Umm...You do know that Archer's the adult version of Shirou right? 1 8 9 981. I love it when he tells others not to touch Saber because she is his. First, a rule. *smiles* or to put it simply, Shirou is being a gentleman. Look, Gil only wants Saber because she refuses to become his property.You probably shouldn't use Zero to prove your point, because Zero contradicts it. He ruined sabers character. and Archer isn't a future Shirou . Saber just love Shirou when he was young, not future form.Every fans know that Gil is not someone who pull his word, so he will always want saber to be his. He immediately takes notice of both Saber and Rider due to their status as kings. And I agree with her, we both ship Saber and Shirou. Atleast there both heroes. And besides, Saber doesn't even like Gilgamesh. Love is complicated, sometimes, maybe when we see how Gilgamesh propose Saber it like Gil just playing around, but we never know whats in his heart because Gil not an easy to understand, he is a mysterous character. If you saw Gil's ending in Fate/Unlimited Codes, you'd know. How is Shirou worse? Do you think obi wan cutting of Vader’s limbs and leaving him to burn was a dumb idea for him to have to wear his suit ? He’s referring to loving Sabers pain and despair. I love the story and I'm also very interested in this argument. Making her in the eyes of Gilgamesh as the unattainable and yet sweetest treasure of all. She has every right to be with the man she loves. What a joke. How would he survive or rather, how would Saber survive if she relies on him?? Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. But the most important love in the epic is certainly between Gilgamesh and Enkidu. 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